[WCUSP] Apartheid as our frame? Dems Repudiate Carter Book

[Joyce McLean]

great that you are in favor of a letter....letters to pols should always 
have a question....perhaps the question should be "what if anything would it 
take for you to stop supporting the present Israeli policies?".....you know 
what I mean even if it's crudely phrased....you want  to support the 
existence of Israel?.. we strongly feel that Israel can only be secure when 
the present  ongoing injustices cease....the description  apartheid doesn't 
sit well...what word does? - Does it make Israel's future safer?.....----  
Original Message ----- 
From: "yvonne simmons" <roweenayvonne at yahoo.com>
To: "Joyce McLean" <jmclean at jps.net>; <JoanWDrake at aol.com>; 
<lmfrank1 at verizon.net>; <beejayssite at yahoo.com>; <kzaidan at wilpf.org>; 
<wcusp at wilpf.org>
Cc: <turacc at earthlink.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [WCUSP] Apartheid as our frame? Dems Repudiate Carter Book


> Dear Joyce, I agree with you that a letter be written
> to our Dem leaders expressing our discontent. I do
> feel that Carter has done us all working for justice
> and freedom in Palestine and Israel a favour although
> I have not read the book many citizens will who have
> no or little knowledge of the issue will.
> My sister-in-law teaches at Greenwich University. Her
> father is or was a Turkish Cypriot diplomat and when
> she wrote in favor of the academic boycott her words
> somehow got to the USA and she recieved angry mail
> from the States. She said that England's jews are
> different in how they react about Israel and Palestine
> and are more moderate. You are not nagging, I see this
> as an opportunity to educate the about the dire
> situation in Palestine. I feel we need to have the
> courage and sensitivity to address the situation on
> the ground in Gaza and the West Bank. The Israeli  I
> videoed at the IEC from WILPF said that within the
> Israeli section of WILPF there were differences and
> heated arguements about divestment  and academic and
> non-academic sanctions and this will hurt Israel but
> Daphne that without the US support the occupation
> would end. In solidarity Yvonne.
>
> --- Joyce McLean <jmclean at jps.net> wrote:
>
>> yeah...so excuse my 'nagging'.... though it may just
>> be a waste of paper....can't a letter be written to
>> the Dem leaders Pelosi, Conyers,etc and perhaps as a
>> model for all to send to their own
>> Congressperson....expressing our discontent at their
>> criticism of Carter and their refusal to acknowledge
>> the injustices being done against
>> Palestineans.....could Kate write up such a proposed
>> letter and unless there is a 'block' it be sent and
>> posted......
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: JoanWDrake at aol.com
>>   To: lmfrank1 at verizon.net ; beejayssite at yahoo.com ;
>> kzaidan at wilpf.org ; wcusp at wilpf.org
>>   Cc: turacc at earthlink.com
>>   Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 6:20 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [WCUSP] Apartheid as our frame? Dems
>> Repudiate Carter Book
>>
>>
>>   Over the past twenty years or more I have
>> concluded that there is no way of framing the issues
>> posed by Israel's 60-year long military occupation
>> of Palestine that will be acceptable to the US
>> Jewish community. So I see little difference in
>> mincing words or being expansive when trying to
>> reason with or appeal to Jews in the US on this
>> issue; I don't believe our choice of vocabulary
>> words will make much difference in being heard and
>> responded to in a reasoned discussion. Reason does
>> not work -- international human rights conventions
>> and the Geneva Accords have no impact on Israeli
>> policy -- words of the victims have no impact and
>> the facts on the ground have no impact on the wall
>> of silence and steadfast denial that American Jewry
>> has built around Israel's total debasement of the
>> Palestinian community and its people. Golda Meir
>> denied the very existence of Palestine and
>> Palestinians -- and today's generation follows in
>> that vein by denying Israel's vicious policies of
>> extermination and control. While there are notable
>> exceptions in our community, such as Libby and Odile
>> and their Israeli counterparts, they are few and far
>> between and they do not speak for the mainstream --
>> and their attempts to point a way to peace and
>> stability in the region is appreciated more in
>> activist circles than within their own community. I
>> know that they experience the same frustrations that
>> those of us working on the issue have experienced.
>> The knee jerk response to Carter's book title by
>> Democratic Party office holders is quite
>> understandable -- you don't serve in Congress unless
>> you are in line with AIPAC policy -- the politicians
>> who have spoken out on the matter clearly want to
>> hold on to their jobs. I really think the current
>> debate is not very enlightening or helpful -- call
>> it what you like, but if it looks like a duck, walks
>> like a duck, and quacks like a duck...?
>>
>>
>>
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